Exceed monsters basic rulings

Postato originariamente da Aldragon Postato originariamente da D-Player Uhm... sorge spontanea una domanda: come interagiranno gli Exceed Monsters con carte come Level Limit - Area B e Gravity Bind? Non hanno livello... logica vuole che possano comunque attaccare... Ci sono altri punti poco chiari riguardo agli Exceed Monsters... speriamo che con la loro uscita si decidano anche a darci un forum "ufficiale" di discussione sui rulings... Certo che possono attaccare. Tra l'altro la Konami l'ha pure specificato nelle FAQ. Quali sarebbero gli altri punti poco chiari? .-.

Perdona la domanda ma... quali FAQ? Non ho controllato le FAQ giapponesi, parli di quelle? Hanno aggiunto qualcosa al riguardo?

Perchè in quelle postate da DarkMagician75 (che poi sono le stesse che puoi trovare sui principali siti che trattano l'argomento) non c'è nulla al riguardo.

FAQ: Q: Can you use face down face down monsters as Exceed materials? A: No you may not - No Q: When the Exceed monster is destroyed and sent to grave due to battle or by card effects, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: When the Exceed monster leaves field, the Exceed materials are sent to grave - No Q: If Interdimensional Matter Transporter is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave - No Q: If Compulsory Evacuation Device is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave - No Q: If Book of Moon is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials stay on the field with the face down Exceed monster (Yes, the Exceed materials actually stay with the Exceed monster all the way) - No Q: If Banisher of Radiance or Macrocosmos is on the field and the Exceed monster leaves field, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials are removed from game - No Q: If Dimension Fissure is on the field and the Exceed monster leaves field, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave (Nope, not a translation error) - No Q: If Mind Control is used on an opp's Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials' control moves together with the Exceed monster's control - No Q: If Skill Drain is on the field and you Exceed Summon, what happens to the Exceed materials? A: The Exceed materials are still placed on the Exceed monster - No Q: Can a Zombie Carrier that is on the field through its revival effect be used as a Exceed material? If so, what happens to the Exceed materials? And what happens when the Exceed monster leaves the field? A: You may use that Zombie Carrier as an Exceed material. When you use it as an Exceed material, the Zombie Carrier will become an Exceed Material for the Exceed monster. When the Exceed monster leaves the field, the Zombie Carrier goes to grave. (So yes, you can reuse it again) - No Q: If a Sangan was used as an Exceed material, when it goes to grave, do you get the search effect? A: When the Sangan becomes an Exceed material, it is no longer treated to be 'on the field', therefore you will not be able to search as it did not enter grave from field. (The same would apply to cards like DD Survivor, etc) - No Q: If a Dandylion was used as an Exceed material, when it goes to grave, do you get the special summon token effect? A: When the Dandylion becomes an Exceed material and is sent to grave, you will still get the special summon token effect. (Difference from Sangan is it does not have to enter grave from the field to get its effect. The same would apply to Jinzo Returner, DD Scout plane, etc) - No Q: If a machine monster is an Exceed material, and a Cyber Dragon is on the field, can you contact for a Chimeratech Fortress Dragon? A: You may not (Similar to Sangan's ruling, the Exceed materials are not considered to be on the field) - No Q: If you have an Exceed monster on the field with Exceed materials, and your opponent activates Secret Barrel. Do you count the Exceed materials? A: No, you do not include the Exceed materials (I guess consistent with its ruling for Sangan and such, Exceed materials are technically NOT on the field) - No Other things not mentioned in the FAQ: Trap monsters can be used in the Exceed summon and they still go under the Exceed monster as an Exceed materials - No Tokens cannot be used for Exceed summons. (No Phantom Skyblaster abuse for you) - No Exceed materials are not considered to be on the field (Simiilar to the rulings for Sangan, etc in the FAQ), therefore you cannot target them with Thunder Break and other such cards- No

Probabilmente inventeranno qualcosa che renderà le carte che influenzano i livelli, in grado di influenzare anche il rank. Dopotutto questo rank viene indicato con le stelline o ricordo male?

Postato originariamente da Il Folle Postato originariamente da D-Player Uhm... sorge spontanea una domanda: come interagiranno gli Exceed Monsters con carte come Level Limit - Area B e Gravity Bind? Non hanno livello... logica vuole che possano comunque attaccare... Mandiamo questa domanda alla redazione di Mistero

E' una domanda tanto stupida?
In effetti, se non hanno un valore che ne determini il livello, ma hanno un valore che ne determina il "Rank", allora possono attaccare anche se le sopracitate carte sono presenti in campo...

Ehm... per il resto... da quando a "Mistero" risolvono i misteri? Quel programma è... pessimo per quanto riguarda la qualità dei contenuti...

Postato originariamente da D-Player Uhm... sorge spontanea una domanda: come interagiranno gli Exceed Monsters con carte come Level Limit - Area B e Gravity Bind? Non hanno livello... logica vuole che possano comunque attaccare...

Mandiamo questa domanda alla redazione di Mistero

Uhm... sorge spontanea una domanda: come interagiranno gli Exceed Monsters con carte come Level Limit - Area B e Gravity Bind?

Non hanno livello... logica vuole che possano comunque attaccare...

Ci sono altri punti poco chiari riguardo agli Exceed Monsters... speriamo che con la loro uscita si decidano anche a darci un forum "ufficiale" di discussione sui rulings...

ma non avendo livello non posso sincronizzarli quindi?

Sostanzialmente diverse,va bene.
diciamo che è un'opportunità in più dai,e carte come mind control diventano ancora più forti(e perchè no,potrebbe anche essere bannato a sto punto,visto che ormai toglie tutto)

Ma sopratutto...
Con riaccendere e debris preferisco fare un syncro...

Io non vorrei dire nulla...ma gadget+gadget=ciccione gratis

Postato originariamente da Drazhar Postato originariamente da Aldragon Postato originariamente da Drazhar è un gioco bellissimo :sisi: cmq ripeto: dipende tutto dagli exceed! per ora l'unico carino è il guerriero 2500... il vaylon chiede 3 mostri e non potendo usare i token è davvero troppo! :( Calice del Saggio + Mind + mostro trappola.... uhm... wow, alla fine è uno 0 !!! XD contiamo assieme: ho usato 3 carte mie (calice + mind + trap) e un mostro dell'oppo per farne uno mio... secondo me non è uno 0 poi vedi te

Ti ricordo che il Vayron ha un effetto.... .-.

Postato originariamente da Aldragon Postato originariamente da Drazhar [QUOTE=Drazhar] è un gioco bellissimo :sisi: cmq ripeto: dipende tutto dagli exceed! per ora l'unico carino è il guerriero 2500... il vaylon chiede 3 mostri e non potendo usare i token è davvero troppo! :( Calice del Saggio + Mind + mostro trappola.... uhm... wow, alla fine è uno 0 !!! XD

contiamo assieme:

ho usato 3 carte mie (calice + mind + trap) e un mostro dell'oppo
per farne uno mio... secondo me non è uno 0 poi vedi te

è un gioco bellissimo :sisi:
cmq ripeto: dipende tutto dagli exceed!
per ora l'unico carino è il guerriero 2500... il vaylon chiede 3 mostri e non potendo usare i token è davvero troppo! :(

bene o male non c'è stato nulla di nuovo, sono però perplesso sulla dimensional fissure

Più o meno sono stati coerenti.
Quindi,se usi sangan o darksoul per una exceed summon,non triggererà mai XD

FAQ:
Q: Can you use face down face down monsters as Exceed materials?
A: No you may not

Q: When the Exceed monster is destroyed and sent to grave due to battle or by card effects, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: When the Exceed monster leaves field, the Exceed materials are sent to grave

Q: If Interdimensional Matter Transporter is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave

Q: If Compulsory Evacuation Device is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave

Q: If Book of Moon is used on an Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials stay on the field with the face down Exceed monster (Yes, the Exceed materials actually stay with the Exceed monster all the way)

Q: If Banisher of Radiance or Macrocosmos is on the field and the Exceed monster leaves field, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials are removed from game

Q: If Dimension Fissure is on the field and the Exceed monster leaves field, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials are sent to grave (Nope, not a translation error)

Q: If Mind Control is used on an opp's Exceed monster, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials' control moves together with the Exceed monster's control

Q: If Skill Drain is on the field and you Exceed Summon, what happens to the Exceed materials?
A: The Exceed materials are still placed on the Exceed monster

Q: Can a Zombie Carrier that is on the field through its revival effect be used as a Exceed material? If so, what happens to the Exceed materials? And what happens when the Exceed monster leaves the field?
A: You may use that Zombie Carrier as an Exceed material. When you use it as an Exceed material, the Zombie Carrier will become an Exceed Material for the Exceed monster. When the Exceed monster leaves the field, the Zombie Carrier goes to grave. (So yes, you can reuse it again)

Q: If a Sangan was used as an Exceed material, when it goes to grave, do you get the search effect?
A: When the Sangan becomes an Exceed material, it is no longer treated to be 'on the field', therefore you will not be able to search as it did not enter grave from field. (The same would apply to cards like DD Survivor, etc)

Q: If a Dandylion was used as an Exceed material, when it goes to grave, do you get the special summon token effect?
A: When the Dandylion becomes an Exceed material and is sent to grave, you will still get the special summon token effect. (Difference from Sangan is it does not have to enter grave from the field to get its effect. The same would apply to Jinzo Returner, DD Scout plane, etc)

Q: If a machine monster is an Exceed material, and a Cyber Dragon is on the field, can you contact for a Chimeratech Fortress Dragon?
A: You may not (Similar to Sangan's ruling, the Exceed materials are not considered to be on the field)

Q: If you have an Exceed monster on the field with Exceed materials, and your opponent activates Secret Barrel. Do you count the Exceed materials?
A: No, you do not include the Exceed materials (I guess consistent with its ruling for Sangan and such, Exceed materials are technically NOT on the field)

Other things not mentioned in the FAQ:
Trap monsters can be used in the Exceed summon and they still go under the Exceed monster as an Exceed materials

Tokens cannot be used for Exceed summons. (No Phantom Skyblaster abuse for you)

Exceed materials are not considered to be on the field (Simiilar to the rulings for Sangan, etc in the FAQ), therefore you cannot target them with Thunder Break and other such cards