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    Postato: 21 Novembre 2009 alle 22:32
ciao... volevo sapere secondo voi come funziona l'effetto della fortune lady light..... cioè quando viene rimossa dal terreno dall'effetto di una carta..... ok..... ma quello che voglio sapere è se anche tramite tributo ma non da parte di un mostro, ma bensì da una carta che fà tributare..... ad esempio quella per l'incantatore che dice tributa un incantatore evocane un'altro dalla mano e spacca un mostro sul terreno.... viene considerata come rimossa dal terreno per effetto di una carta???? grazie
Questo è quello che dice su wiki ma non specifica questo caso....

TCG RulingsIf "Fortune Lady Light" is returned from the field to your hand, you can activate its effect. (If it was face-down, you must show it to your opponent) [1]
If this card's Level is 12, the effect to increase its Level will not activate during the Standby Phase.[1]
Mentions in Other RulingsFortune Lady Fire: If you Special Summon "Fortune Lady Fire" in Defense Position by the effect of "Fortune Lady Light" while "Level Limit - Area A" is active, it will be switched to Attack Position and its effect will activate.
OCG RulingsWhen "Fortune Lady Light" is returned from the field to the hand, you can activate its effect and Special Summon another "Fortune Lady" monster. If you do so, then you must show the "Fortune Lady Light" to your opponent.[2]
If "Fortune Lady Light" becomes an Equip Spell Card by an effect like "Relinquished" or "Destiny Hero - Plasma", then when it is removed from the field its owner can activate its effect which Special Summons a "Fortune Lady" monster.[3]
If your "Fortune Lady Light" is removed from play from your opponent's field permanently by an effect like "Dark Core", then you can activate its effect and Special Summon a "Fortune Lady" card from your Deck. If your "Fortune Lady Light" is removed from play from your opponent's field temporarily by an effect like "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" or "Dimensionhole", then your opponent controls "Fortune Lady Light" so he can activate its effect.[4]
The effect of "Fortune Lady Light" activates after it is removed from the field. If "Fortune Lady Light" is returned to the hand from the field, then the effect activates in the hand. If "Fortune Lady Light" is sent from the field to the Graveyard, then the effect activates in the Graveyard. If "Fortune Lady Light" is removed from play, the effect activates in the place to where the card is removed from play. However, you cannot activate the effect of "Fortune Lady Light" when it is returned to the Deck from the field.[5]
If "Fortune Lady Light" is face-down when it is removed from the field, then its effect does not activate and you cannot Special Summon another "Fortune Lady" monster.[6]
For the effect "This card cannot declare an attack unless you return 1 card you control to its owner's hand." of "Falcon of Mist Valley", the monster is not considered to be removed from the field by a card effect.[7]
Example: If "Falcon of Mist Valley" attacks by returning "Fortune Lady Light" to the hand, then you cannot activate the effect of "Fortune Lady Light" because "Fortune Lady Light" is not removed from the field by a card effect.[7]
Suppose you control "Fortune Lady Fire" and "Fortune Lady Light". If you activate "Magical Dimension" and Tribute "Fortune Lady Fire" to Special Summon "Fortune Lady Water" and then destroy "Fortune Lady Light", then afterwards only the effect of "Fortune Lady Light" will activate. The effect of "Fortune Lady Water" will not activate because you do not control "Fortune Lady Light" when the effect activates, even though you controlled "Fortune Lady Light" when "Fortune Lady Water" was Special Summoned.[8]
For the effect "● You can remove from play this card and 1 face-up monster you control, and draw 2 cards." of "Cyber Valley", you draw the cards after removing from play the monsters; the two do not occur simultaneously. Thus, if "Fortune Lady Light" is removed from play by the effect of "Cyber Valley", then afterwards you draw cards, so you miss the timing and cannot activate the effect of "Fortune Lady Light".[9]
Fortune Lady Monster RulingsOCG RulingsIf the Level of a monster like "Fortune Lady Light" or "Fortune Lady Earth" is already 12, then its effect to increase its Level does not activate during the Standby Phase.[10][11]
The Level of a monster like "Fortune Lady Light" or "Fortune Lady Earth" can be increased beyond 12 by other effects, such as "Synchro Boost".[10] [11]
If the activation of the effect "During each of your Standby Phases, increase the Level of this card by 1 (max 12)." of monsters like "Fortune Lady Light" is negated by the effect of "Light and Darkness Dragon", then the effect of "Fortune Lady Light" will activate again during the same Standby Phase.[12]
After a monster like "Fortune Lady Earth" increases its own Level by its effect, if its Level is negated by an effect like "Skill Drain" or "Forbidden Chalice", then the Level of "Fortune Lady Earth" returns to the original Level that is printed on the card.[13]
Monsters like "Fortune Lady Earth" do not have a defined ATK, so cards like "Magician's Circle" and "Limit Reverse" may not Special Summon them from the Deck or Graveyard.[14]
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  Quota Drazhar Quota  RispondiRispondi Link diretto a questo post Postato: 21 Novembre 2009 alle 22:55
ora spiegami perchè hai letto tutto il ruling di fortune lady light e hai fatto una domanda su dimensione magica senza leggere:

Tributing a monster for "Magical Dimension" is not a cost; it's part of the effect and happens when the effect resolves.
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  Quota Phantom69 Quota  RispondiRispondi Link diretto a questo post Postato: 21 Novembre 2009 alle 23:14
perchè leggendo quello che hai postato non avevo capito... e non l'ho ancora capito tuttora.....
e poi non è legata a quella carta ma anche ad altre delllo stesso genere, tipo mostro cancello....

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  Quota Drazhar Quota  RispondiRispondi Link diretto a questo post Postato: 21 Novembre 2009 alle 23:56
allora... ragioniamo, ti va?

la lady dice che se è rimossa per EFFETTO di una carta si attiva... quindi basta guardare quando è parte dell'effetto e quabdo è costo!

nel caso di dimensione magica è parte dell'effetto quindi parte...

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  Quota Phantom69 Quota  RispondiRispondi Link diretto a questo post Postato: 22 Novembre 2009 alle 13:04
ok grazie solo che non avevo capito il concetto..... quindi siccome mostro cancello è un costo l'effetto non parte....
tutte quelle che in risoluzione la rimuovono vanno bene....
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